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Kay ([personal profile] sincere) wrote2007-02-12 12:21 pm

Your marriage is your kids - or not

From BoingBoing.net: The Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance is challenging a ridiculous court ruling in an unusual way - by supporting it.

The Washington Supreme Court rules out gay marriage because the state has an interest in limiting marriage to couples that can procreate. Now isn’t that an absurd thing to say? Lots of people get married and never have kids, and the state never punishes them. They don’t follow up on this political interest of theirs! Well, with the new initiatives proposed by the Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance, they will.

Specifically, they will annul any marriages that have not filed ‘proof of procreation’ within three years, declare unrecognized any out-of-state marriages that have not done the same, and they will make it a criminal act to receive marriage benefits in an unrecognized marriage. (Furthermore, divorce won’t be allowed. You got married for the kids, not each other– right?)

I think this initiative is a beautiful thing, because no sane person would vote for it. But they’ll have to discuss it… and what can they say about it that won’t sound like a defense of equal marriage? “Marriage isn’t just about having children”, “Marriage is about two people engaging in a commitment together and to each other”… oh really? Then what, exactly, is wrong with the gay couple next door getting married?

[identity profile] hauntedreality.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh...

[identity profile] apapazukamori.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance is effing brilliant. XD They should do the same in New York, since the NY supreme court used a similar argument.

[identity profile] v-voltaire.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That's funny. I heard somewhere (wish I remember where) that this bill was being set up specifically so it would be later voted down, setting a legal precedent against the "marriage is for heterosexuals only" laws. It's actually meant to be pro-gay marriage, in a way.
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, if you check their website they're pretty up-front about it. They want it to be shot down so that it weakens the premise of the "marriage is defined as having kids" argument, and go back to challenge the decision that prompted it in the first place, and all people with that argument everywhere. I think it's kinda neat. XD Reverse psychology win?
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, man. Now here's a crazy right-wing law that I can say with excitement that I can't wait for it to get shot down. :D

[identity profile] apapazukamori.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"Think of the chiiiiiiiiiiildren!"

I'm tired of thinking of the children. Squalling infants are the best contraception argument you can make as far as I'm concerned.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The most hilarious thing I heard about this was that I heard about it from stupid_free first, because the CF comms were in an UPROAR about the evil breeders.

...I think it's fucking awesome, and people are loons if they don't get what's up. XD
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-02-12 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
omg, if I ever needed proof that there's no more virulent nest of overreactive hens. XD I mean, I feared at first that they were serious also, until I did twelve seconds of research and right on the homepage of the Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance they said openly that the entire purpose of this initiative was to have it get voted DOWN so that they could use that precedent to challenge the OTHER stupid ruling. XD

I know that we're all used to organizations and people claiming to be in "defense" of marriage to actually only be spouting the same tired line about marriage is for baby-making, but. REALLY.

[identity profile] gatafairy.livejournal.com 2007-02-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
That... is brilliant. XD

[identity profile] tsaiko.livejournal.com 2007-02-13 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
What's scary is that in some states (North Carolina for instance) infertility is a sound reason to have a marriage invalidated. Granted the law hasn't been used for decades, but it's still on the books. So for every use of something like that for a good cause, I have to look at some of the states who would think "Hey, that might not be a bad idea..."

[identity profile] reversedhymnal.livejournal.com 2007-02-14 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
*makes strangled noises*

There are tears in my eyes. Tears of joy. That's beautiful, ♥

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