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Kay ([personal profile] sincere) wrote2007-07-13 09:12 pm

HP: Order of the Phoenix comments

Okay, having seen Order of the Phoenix, I finally feel like comfortable saying this.

I am a Harry/Luna shipper.


Whew! That's been on my chest for -- like four years now, I guess.


First, I am not one of those people who disliked the fifth book. I never cried about caps lock zomg, or about Harry's emo/general stupidity. In fact, I totally approved of the fifth book. I loved, loved, the build-up at the school: the fear and resentment, the tension building, the climactic explosion of the twins's departure, the growing rebellion... Good stuff.

I felt like the movie underplayed the worst possible part it could have underplayed: Sirius. It cut out so many scenes with him, so much of his story and emotion, and then underplayed his death. In the original, his death was an anticlimax -- he was proud and confident, and having an intense duel with Bellatrix, and because of his own stupidity, he got himself killed. It was horrible. Here it was kind of like... There was total chaos going on too fast and none of it made any sense (what even HAPPENED at this point?) and he was dueling Lucius (why?! his duel with Bellatrix was all significant!) and then she sort of like, surprise-attacked him into the veil. It took away the senseless horror of his death and just left it feeling kind of rushed and... senseless. Less like "--Oh god" and more like "Oops?"

Really liked the tone, and newspaper-reel changes! Tonks was good for what little of her there was, Umbridge was great, and Luna was perfect. ♥ In fact, I think the directors had a crush on her or something? She had a lot of close-ups and stuff. But that's fine, because she was perfect.

And I hope that someone, somewhere, after watching this movie, also thought up the Harry/Luna ship. As far as I know, I am the only people in the whole internets that likes this pairing. Ron/Luna I've seen. Ginny/Luna and Hermione/Luna, even. But never Harry/Luna. What.

[identity profile] alba-aulbath.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I was thinking of it through the movie. I don't think I thought about it much during the book.

But, um. Yes. HARRY/LUNA. And I'd actually prefer Neville/Ginny than Harry/Ginny. :3 I loved Neville in the fifth book, love him here.

There's some parts I definitely wish were in this movie, but I have to say, Umbridge was terribly perfect and I adored Tonks and Luna. (Not enough Tonks, sadly, but ah well.)
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
I agree -- Neville/Ginny was sweet, and I'm not really that fond of what happened to Ginny's character after that point. XD When she suddenly became really popular, dated everyone, took up sports, became a prankster, Harry's girlfriend, etc... But when she was with Neville it was sweet. ♥

Harry/Luna is so sweet and she makes him feel better and helps him when he needs it! What's not to love.

I agree that everyone was casted perfectly. :3

[identity profile] libekory.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think the casting in all the movies has startled me a little, especially with villains. Not because anyone was bad, but because I can so vividly picture the cartoony illustrations in all the books, and I keep going "What, you mean Umbridge isn't a squat pink toad? :O"

I don't know what I'm expecting except for frightening CGI. XD

[identity profile] libekory.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
You already know my feelings, but I'd totally ship them off that scene alone.

Of course. Harry/Ginny is sort of terrible and I'd take anything in its place. ;) But they were genuinely good here, they had -- a moment. Not just weird-ass sexual tension from out of nowhere. And that's shiny.

[identity profile] v-voltaire.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always said that if I could truly believe Harry were straight, I'd ship him with Luna.

[identity profile] v-voltaire.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
OH yes, and seconding the Tonks, Luna, and Umbridge love. They were so well done it's amazing! It's great to see this many female characters with such an absolute devotion to their personalities.

[identity profile] yami-chan.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally ship them too! The movie just made me feel better about it! ^___^

I agree completely with you about the movie.
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
XD!! "Weird-ass sexual tension out of nowhere" kind of describes Harry/Ginny pretty well.
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's funny, because I have never, not once believed Harry was gay, and no one has ever presented a good reason for me to think he wasn't straight. XD

Asexual, yeah. I pinned him as asexual for a long time and didn't ship him with anyone. (Well, every now and then I'd read, like, a Harry/Draco fic or something, but I didn't ship them.) Then I developed the Harry/Luna side-ship. I think if he were asexual, Luna would have the least problem with it anyway. XD
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree! I feel like some liberties have been taken with Hermione, and although poor Ron is perfect he gets nudged out of the scene more often than not, but I admire the way this director got Luna and Umbridge just right. And although Tonks was hardly there, I love how she looks -- I wasn't sure HOW you could do someone who looks like Tonks but is an adult woman and not like, a teen punk, so I was worried we'd get that and she'd be a little more of a Mary Sue than previously. But they didn't disappoint me. :3
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
♥♥♥ They're a good pairing! I hope more people think so from this movie. ♥

[identity profile] hauntedreality.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
...*sigh* I read the books. I diiiiid! Well, not Half Blood Prince, but the other ones! I read this one. Why can't I remember any of the newer characters?!?! I don't even know who Luna is and you aren't the first to rave about her on your journal. I need to see this movie and refresh my terrible memory. Unless I'm active in a fandom (and thus constantly writing or reading for it) I forget everyone's names! Heh...still, I'm glad you wrote this up so I can more accurately remember the book when I see the movie. *nods* Not that you wrote it for that purpose...
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Luna is the craaaazy blonde chick they met in Order of the Phoenix, her father runs a trashy magazine and so she has all sorts of stories about Bat Boy narguls and other things that don't exist. But she and Harry have several moments together that I thought were sweet: they were the only ones who could see the invisible skeletal horses drawing the carriages, and in this movie (I can't recall if it's in the original) he mentioned how alone he feels to her and she told him that Voldemort would want him to feel alone, even when he's among friends; then at the end of the book, after Sirius, he's wandering around feeling achey and sad during the feast and he finds her. All her possessions have been stolen by bullies, so she's putting up posters hoping they'll bring them back. :D She tells him that her mother, who died, always told her that things you think are lost have a way of coming back to you foreshadowing Sirius's return from the dead in book 7. Right?? Right?? And it makes him feel better even though nobody else could, and I was like, omgawwww OTP. XD

[identity profile] hauntedreality.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, that sounds familiar... I think. I read the first five books in a bit of a non-stop whirlwind that included lots of reading but not much sleep. I think it all just kind of melted into a big Harry Potter-shaped ball of information in my head.

It is like inhaling your food instead of savoring it and then trying to recall what the ingridents were.

But I can see why you ship them. *nods*

[identity profile] v-voltaire.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a reasoned thing, it's just that Harry pings as gay to me, that's all. Maybe it's because he makes a lot of the same relationship mistakes my gay guy friends did.
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2007-07-15 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, that's fair. XD I've been in arguments with crazy people before who insisted things like, "Harry is totally canonically gay because the narration keeps observing that Sirius is handsome!" and I'm like, "...yeah, that totally makes him gay. Go away now."

But a feeling is a feeling, so that's cool. XD

[identity profile] wy1d.livejournal.com 2007-07-16 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I have only seen like one movie other than this one. and not laid a finger on the books...BUT THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT. THEY'RE SO CUTE TOGETHER OMG!

[identity profile] ladygoddess.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I am now a LUna/Harry shipper like whoa. <3 To me, at the end of the OotP, there was this one scene which hit me out of nowhere to go, "Dude! G/N all the way!"

I don't own the book though, so I couldn't point out what scene. But then again, I think the main point of watching OotP twice was to see Luna again. Sirius's death was so...lacking in feeling.

[identity profile] jougetsu.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
You're not the only one, Kay! ^__^ There was a tiny bit of Harry/Luna love immediately after the OotP the book came out and then it died for some reason, which was sad. Harry/Luna is the only Harry het ship I like, and the new movie seemed to hint at this ship which made me giddy. New movie & new book all in one summer make me actually want to fic for HP. If I write/sketch any Harry/Luna, I'll dedicate it to you.

[identity profile] usagi-alchemist.livejournal.com 2008-01-11 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
I saw that ship in the books. ^_^ It was the first one I saw without its being pointed out to me.