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Kay ([personal profile] sincere) wrote2006-10-16 10:10 am
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Writing Vocally

I have to made a podcast/netcast for October 27 in one of my classes; since my laptop has a built-in microphone it's not a problem, and I figured I would get in some speech recording/audio editing practice for it by sort of writing a fic out loud.

It's surprisingly hard and I don't know why. I would get midway through a sentence and stop, I would change my mind, I would "umm..." for long awkward moments, and eventually I would just trail off into embarrassed, awkward silence. You would think I couldn't... write.

And I'm thinking about it. I always have a very clear image in my head. Right now I have a very clear image, so clear that if I had artistic skillz I could illustrate it as a still-shot: a slightly spoiled blood elf woman who is at the beach sunbathing when she discovers in a startling way that her equally bratty friends have decided to play a prank on her by hooking her up with a troll. This is not at all a result of me thinking too much about expansion RP.

I can write it. I know exactly what words to describe it and how it will play out in prose. My fingers are itching to type it.

But for some reason when I try and speak them out loud, those words vanish. There is a mental route from my imagination through my fingers, but attempting to detour it to my mouth -- it doesn't work the same way. There is a stumbling block that causes those words to emerge much slowly and less eloquently when I try and narrate prose out loud. Why is that, I wonder? Anyone else have any experience with this?

I wonder if he would saw off his tusks if they fall in love and she really wanted to be able to kiss him without goring herself.

[identity profile] angrybabble.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't prose out loud, really (well, individual sentences, but my auditory memory is total shit XD) but I am kind of the opposite of you, I guess... I think way better out loud. The best fics I come up with are usually a result of talking to someone about them. The person doesn't need to really give me suggestions, know what i'm talking about, or otherwise participate; it's the act of just trying to tell someone the story out loud that makes ideas pop out of nowhere for me. (Then I can write them down, but before that, I really don't have ideas!)
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I can talk out loud, and I often in fact speak dialogue out loud when I'm thinking things out. (I never remember it AFTERWARDS, but.) But yes, I find it's usually very helpful to talk about my idea with someone, even if it's only just AT them -- it helps me get my thoughts organized and think through all the things I need to think through, whether or not they have relevant suggestions.

It works for me over IM equally well, though, so maybe that doesn't count? XD

[identity profile] apapazukamori.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I sound dialogue out loud all the time, but I have trouble talking out actual prose. Though I do think it's helpful to read things aloud after I've written them. :)
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think some of the people I've lived with, especially my parents, think I'm totally crazy, because I sound like I'm having conversations with myself behind my closed door. XD My mother asks me about it sometimes, in tones clearly indicating there is no excuse. I'm WRITING, people!!

Reading things out loud is hands down the best way to find out if something sounds natural or not, and it's great for when I've gotten distracted and need to get back into the flow.

[identity profile] apapazukamori.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm not crazy, I'm an AUTHOR!!"

>XD

My mother stopped bothering me about talking to myself a looooong time ago. XD

[identity profile] sphere.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I have kinda the same problem with just naturally talking. When I talk, I know what I want to say, but I'm mentally figuring out the best way to say it. It makes it seem like I have a stuttering problem, because I keep stopping and rephrasing what I'm actually saying. I hate it. D:
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely know the feeling. Public speaking was the bane of my existence.

Oddly, though, after years of this crippling discomfort associated with speaking with strangers and in public, someone randomly approached me after class the other day and said that I'm very well-spoken and have a dynamic presence, that she normally tunes out when the professor isn't lecturing but she wound up paying attention when I asked questions.

So that was kind of awesome.

Tusks?!

[identity profile] wy1d.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Bigger things to worry about!

I can see it now, for christmas, she gives him a bone saw...He gives her industrial-sized eyebrow tweezers.
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Re: Tusks?!

[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
She already manicures her eyebrows and they are the exactly perfect complementary shape thankyouverymuch.

Re: Tusks?!

[identity profile] madfnorder.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
For additional drama- he's a mage, she's a pally- is it love, or does she just like him for his mana?
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Re: Tusks?!

[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. They can't be warriors. But hunters have mana!

They're pallies, priests, mages, warlocks, hunters, and rogues. Rogues are the weird one. They have no mana! WTF?

[identity profile] yashahime.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm horrible about prosing out loud. Even in casual conversation, I often have times where the words get into massive pile-ups and I then completely forget what I was saying, or have to back up and try three and four times to get it out slowly. (Ask Crysi. She'll tell you--she speaks paranthetically, and I speak dyslexically. XD) It got somewhat better after I took an oral communications class, but I still do it.

And I also have the problem that when I tell stories out loud, they are NOTHING like the same stories would be if I wrote them down. And neither is anything like what they'd be if I animated them. I feel that telling a story, as in the out-loud kind, is in fact an entirely different medium than a written story. That might actually be what you're running into--that reading a written story out loud and TELLING a story out loud are different things, and they don't always mesh.
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a really good point, actually. When you TALK about a story, you think about it differently than if you were WRITING a story. So I want to do things one way and fumble when I try to write with my mouth. XD

[identity profile] madfnorder.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I talk a good game, but weirdly enough, my dialogue is my weakest point in my writing, I've always thought. Go figure. We should do a Wonder Twins Combination thinger and be.... OMNIPOTENT RULER OF VERBAL EXPRESSION!
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
A LOT of people have trouble writing dialogue. I have problems STOPPING myself from wanting dialogue. When I write for The Last Dreamer it's kind of hard, because the balance is off: it's all dialogue, with next to no narrative build. They just want to BANTER forever. XD

[identity profile] madfnorder.livejournal.com 2006-10-17 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
That's why we sat down and WTFPwnd that outline. XD

[identity profile] yami-chan.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I can do that either. Maybe it's lack of practice or something. But it's sort of normal. You're use to editing what you write. Speeches are written first then spoken out loud. ^^; Maybe you should just do that?

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't prose outloud. At all. I can't even imagine trying-- it's just no good; these words are made to be written and seen, not heard!

...Also, omg, that RP idea makes me giggle and gleeful. ♥ I always wanted to hook up a troll and a human, curse the faction barrier.

[identity profile] reversedhymnal.livejournal.com 2006-10-16 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, I can't even talk coherently, let alone prose at people aloud (unless it's a sudden burst of romance, but I try and pretend like those moments don't exist). In my head, I'm fucking brilliant. Outloud? Absolutely, painfully incompetent to an extreme that half the time I just don't do it.

When I speak - and even when I type sometimes (thank god for editing!) - I tend to jump around everywhere. But mostly my issues are that I'll say a sentence and get words wrong because I'm thinking about something else, or the next thing I want to say. Or I'll be in the midst of describing something, and I'll be thinking "Hm, this word or that one?" and I'll end up meshing them into one on accident. ^.^;

It...might be a memory thing? I've always wondered if it's because I can focus on what I'm saying in my head, really hear it, while being able to also think about where it's headed. When I open my mouth to speak, it's like everything else shuts down. And when I type, I don't forget half of what I've said, and I can see the words I'm making, the images, so I don't forget what I'm getting at, either.

*snicker* My friends and family are used to me randomly going, "Oh! What if.." and just nodding and going along with it, until I can find some pen and paper, and build off of that. ♥