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I know that my flist has a lot to worry about right now, but I'm not going to herald the end of the world when everyone else is already doing it. I'm too cool to follow the trend like a sheep.
Instead, I'd like to take y'all back a few steps and talk about the Heroes and LOST season finales. There is a very sad Heroes note in particular to be addressed here.
So TV Guide evidently asked the Heroes series creator, Tim Kring, "So why didn't Peter just fly off himself? Why did Nathan have to fly him off and possibly get killed?"
Kring answered, "You know, theoretically you're not supposed to be thinking about that."
...What? Why not? It's a legitimate question and it has been asked, many times on my flist alone. Peter has the ability to fly. Isn't it natural to ask why he didn't do it himself? That answer kind of makes me feel like the Heroes creators don't actually know why Peter didn't just fly off. Like they haven't really put that much thought into it, and you, the fans, aren't supposed to put much thought into it either, you're just supposed to watch it and take it at face value and tune in next season.
So the interviewer told him that the viewers are in fact thinking about it, and to quote from the guy who posted it:
Kring confirms that -- as many have theorized -- radioactive Peter's other powers were "incapacitated" at that pivotal moment, and "somewhere in there is the explanation" for having Nathan grab his bro and do the "flying man!" thing. "But the real explanation is that we wanted Nathan to show up and [save the day]!"
"Yes, I will admit that there's a very tiny window of logic there," Kring continues with a laugh. "But what can I say? It requires the proverbial suspension of disbelief."
...No, I'm sorry, that's not what you say. Pretend like you have good reasons for the things you do. The fans have better ideas for why this happened than you do. They say things like, "I bet Peter was so busy trying to fight his radioactive ability so he wouldn't explode that he couldn't spare the power or the attention to fly himself away from the city; I bet he would've blown up immediately if he hadn't been concentrating so intently on it!"
And you say things like, "We wanted Nathan to save the day! :D So just pretend Peter couldn't fly for some reason."
Just, no. I'm sorry. :\ That's really kind of sad.
The person who linked to the interview adds that though he's enjoyed Heroes and thought some of the episodes were fantastic, "that mentality is why the show will always only ever be OK." And I agree with him. I know a lot of people who feel like Heroes is decent entertainment and fun pulpy stuff, but it's not really first-rate. And this is probably why. The creators evidently have this attitude where they do things because they seem cool, regardless of what should logically happen and without feeling constrained by their own canon.
The commenter also said, "And the thing that makes LOST so compelling, even during the slow episodes, is that it's based on the very opposite of that mentality, as near as I can tell." I also agree with this comment. Maybe it gets infuriating sometimes, I know a lot of people have fallen out of love with it and I know the pacing and the seemingly random focus is killing people, but I have never once doubted that the creators of LOST know exactly where they're going with all of this. The opposite mentality indeed -- instead of doing what seems cool regardless of canon, the LOST creators seem to have created a deep and intricate canon and then set cool things inside of it.
Regarding LOST: I've been wondering about the next season. So did they get off the island, or is it just a hypothetical? Will next season be their escape with flash-forwards to what if they do get to leave instead of flash-backs to what happened before they got here?
And part of me wonders if we'll watch the entire next season of LOST and watch their deep and intricate canon get played out long after they've left the island, and then find out that the whole season was a giant what if and they're all still there.
I'd probably be the only person who thought that was cool, at this point.
I'm pretty sure Kate hooked up with Sawyer, and good for her, becausedamn Jack's confession was random and unnecessary and never came back into play, you know Juliet is cooler!! they actually mitigate one another's annoyingness. Jack's crazy went from latent to full-blown; from what I've seen a lot of people scoff that the LOST creators are forgetting their own canon because of his ranting about his dad as if he's alive, but A) we've seen Jack's dead dad walking around on the island, so who's to say he isn't alive?, and B) Jack is, um, obviously full of drugs and alcohol, which makes me disinclined to take anything he says at face value. From the stunned reaction of the doctor he talked to, it's totally possible that Jack's dad is dead and he's just too whacked out to remember where/when he is.
And whose coffin was that??
La! I like good TV. ♥ But next season will be sad without Charlie.
Instead, I'd like to take y'all back a few steps and talk about the Heroes and LOST season finales. There is a very sad Heroes note in particular to be addressed here.
So TV Guide evidently asked the Heroes series creator, Tim Kring, "So why didn't Peter just fly off himself? Why did Nathan have to fly him off and possibly get killed?"
Kring answered, "You know, theoretically you're not supposed to be thinking about that."
...What? Why not? It's a legitimate question and it has been asked, many times on my flist alone. Peter has the ability to fly. Isn't it natural to ask why he didn't do it himself? That answer kind of makes me feel like the Heroes creators don't actually know why Peter didn't just fly off. Like they haven't really put that much thought into it, and you, the fans, aren't supposed to put much thought into it either, you're just supposed to watch it and take it at face value and tune in next season.
So the interviewer told him that the viewers are in fact thinking about it, and to quote from the guy who posted it:
Kring confirms that -- as many have theorized -- radioactive Peter's other powers were "incapacitated" at that pivotal moment, and "somewhere in there is the explanation" for having Nathan grab his bro and do the "flying man!" thing. "But the real explanation is that we wanted Nathan to show up and [save the day]!"
"Yes, I will admit that there's a very tiny window of logic there," Kring continues with a laugh. "But what can I say? It requires the proverbial suspension of disbelief."
...No, I'm sorry, that's not what you say. Pretend like you have good reasons for the things you do. The fans have better ideas for why this happened than you do. They say things like, "I bet Peter was so busy trying to fight his radioactive ability so he wouldn't explode that he couldn't spare the power or the attention to fly himself away from the city; I bet he would've blown up immediately if he hadn't been concentrating so intently on it!"
And you say things like, "We wanted Nathan to save the day! :D So just pretend Peter couldn't fly for some reason."
Just, no. I'm sorry. :\ That's really kind of sad.
The person who linked to the interview adds that though he's enjoyed Heroes and thought some of the episodes were fantastic, "that mentality is why the show will always only ever be OK." And I agree with him. I know a lot of people who feel like Heroes is decent entertainment and fun pulpy stuff, but it's not really first-rate. And this is probably why. The creators evidently have this attitude where they do things because they seem cool, regardless of what should logically happen and without feeling constrained by their own canon.
The commenter also said, "And the thing that makes LOST so compelling, even during the slow episodes, is that it's based on the very opposite of that mentality, as near as I can tell." I also agree with this comment. Maybe it gets infuriating sometimes, I know a lot of people have fallen out of love with it and I know the pacing and the seemingly random focus is killing people, but I have never once doubted that the creators of LOST know exactly where they're going with all of this. The opposite mentality indeed -- instead of doing what seems cool regardless of canon, the LOST creators seem to have created a deep and intricate canon and then set cool things inside of it.
Regarding LOST: I've been wondering about the next season. So did they get off the island, or is it just a hypothetical? Will next season be their escape with flash-forwards to what if they do get to leave instead of flash-backs to what happened before they got here?
And part of me wonders if we'll watch the entire next season of LOST and watch their deep and intricate canon get played out long after they've left the island, and then find out that the whole season was a giant what if and they're all still there.
I'm pretty sure Kate hooked up with Sawyer, and good for her, because
And whose coffin was that??
La! I like good TV. ♥ But next season will be sad without Charlie.
SPOILERS!, sort of, if you haven't seen 3rd finale
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Re: SPOILERS!, sort of, if you haven't seen 3rd finale
I didn't assume it was Sawyer because she seemed so confused why Jack asked why she didn't go to the funeral. She was like, "...Why would I?" But she kept saying she has to go back, "he" was waiting for her, and I assumed that was Sawyer, who she has been hooking up with anyway, because I can't think who else it would be...
Someone suggested to me that it might have been Ben's funeral, which sounds possible (tumor thing), and also explains why no one showed up. XD Everyone hates Ben.
Re: SPOILERS!, sort of, if you haven't seen 3rd finale
Also, I assumed Ben wouldn't ever leave the island. But I guess I should have learned by now not to take anything in this show for granted.
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I guess if you asked him why DL didn't just phase Niki and himself so the bullet went through him he would have said "because it was more emotional this way." F that.
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As for the coffin, I think it's Locke. Freeze-framing the scrap of paper I see "Man found...body of Jo (or a)." Locke fits in a couple of ways. Assuming that whoever Naomi worked for had plans of their own for the island, they probably removed everyone whether they wanted to go or not, in order to carry out their plans unhindered.
Locke, having left the island, would likely lose the ability to walk. This could make him depressed enough in my opinion to possibly commit suicide.
Kate would react the way she did because the last thing Locke did was try to stop their rescue, and Locke was certainly not Jack's friend. Jack would get broken up about Locke's death because he now thinks he should not have left the island, just like Locke said. Locke having no family and being the man we saw in Walkabout (no friends/phone sex caller for companionship) would likely have no one come to his funeral.
Of course it could be anyone, but that’s my thought at the moment.
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And even though I haven't watched Lost in forever, when I did check out one episode this season, it brought back crazy nostalgia and good memories, because what I remember was so tightly written and compelling and aaaugh. (That episode was really freaky, too, with the spider bite. So it was all kinds of, "GOD I USED TO LOVE THIS SHOW.") Hell, I even remember watching Heroes and going, "You know, if it did such and such like JJ Abrams did on Lost, this should would be amazing."
Alas. (Me, I was going with the "Peter is too busy trying not to blow up kthx" theory. *shrug* Way to go, Kring. e_e)
...ye gods I miss season one of Lost, and the group of us watching, and the fangirling (and fanboying). XD