A scene from The Avengers

[sincere]

You guys, The Avengers is a really good movie.

I've seen it like four times now and every time I see it I notice something else and I come away with new ideas. It has a lot of layers and subtleties.

Like for example... This is something rainfall noticed in particular on this viewing -- when Loki talks to Natasha, he listens with the appearance of serene interest to her story, but he becomes quickly agitated after she says she wants to clear her ledger.

"Can you? Can you really erase that much red? Your ledger is dripping, gushing blood."

He stalks up to her, hissing about how she's a murderer and she can never atone and Clint is a murderer and he can never atone, and we see her [feigned] reaction to his intensity, and we see him, his reflection skewed over her. He's snarling like this not because he cares about Natasha! He's snarling because this hits home for him -- after everything that's happened, he knows things can't go back to the way they used to be. He can't just go "lol it's cool guys, I know more than a hundred people are dead because of me and I gouged out a man's eye in public and I had a great time doing it, but let's go home and forget this all ever happened."

He is literally staring at his reflection superimposed over Natasha as he tells her that when you do terrible things you can never be forgiven.

That's the part that gets him. Not the part where she's doing it for ~love~ or the part where she'd sell out her species. The part where she thinks it will clean the slate. Because he can't clean his.

/flops around a little desperately

/it's a good movie

Yeah, I'm screwed.

Comments

[canavasary]

/hands over brain food for all the Loki feels

[canavasary]

/drive by art drop LOOK

[sincere]

sdfjksljdg horrible things in this fandom get so pretty

/takes the gagging over the sewing, though

I have so many thoughts. He's so easy to analyze. And he keeps crying. STOP CRYING, LOKI. MY FEELINGS.

[canavasary]

So I watched The Avengers again. SURPRISE.

... and the thing that stuck with me THIS TIME was when Coulson said to Loki that it's in his nature to lose and the look on Loki's face is just... Words are failing me!

[sincere]

Oh god I was talking about that line endlessly last time when I came home from the movie and I was locked out of my apartment for two hours. /shot

I can't help feeling, Coulson watched that whole Asgardian drama play out, saw Loki drop Thor off the helicarrier. And he comes away from that and says, you're going to lose. It's in your nature. And Loki is not really thrilled (because according to your Stuttgart show, winning and losing is pretty much genetically pre-determined, right, Loki?) and then Coulson explains, it's because you lack conviction. And Loki gets agitated, because he's right, it's something that rings home for him, and it's not just a shot in the dark, Coulson watched him attempt to murder Thor and he could see that Loki wasn't pleased about it and saw his slow, almost grim recovery once Thor was gone and he thought he didn't have an audience because he'd forgotten about Phil.

/adores

[lynndyre]

That's one of the things I loved the best about Loki's dialogue. Almost everything he's trying to convince other people of - it's about himself.

Freedom is an illusion, In the end you will always kneel, You cannot stop this, You can't wipe out that much red...

He stabs Thor and accuses him of being sentimental. While crying.

[sincere]

You are so very right. I had bits about his self-loathing and his freedom monologue written up too! Loki is a character you can pour a lot of analysis into: he doesn't say what he means and he has this bag full of cats brain, so everything he does has layers and I've seen a lot of people who take him as very sincere in all his evildoing when what I saw is him faltering every time Thor begged him to come home, crying when he refused those offers, etc. Coulson wasn't kidding when he called Loki on lacking conviction.