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Kay ([personal profile] sincere) wrote2006-10-18 04:10 am
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Arrested, Tortured, Convicted, and Executed -- and there's nothing you can do about it

In case anyone out there isn't terrified yet, the writ of habeaus corpus has been suspended.

Let me quote y'all my favorite and most telling parts of this news story, which has apparently been mostly overshadowed because the bill was passed by Congress the same exact night when the Foley scandal was leaked. Prosecute Hastur as hard as you bastards can.

Civil libertarians and leading Democrats decried the law as a violation of American values. The American Civil Liberties Union said it was "one of the worst civil liberties measures ever enacted in American history." Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin said, "We will look back on this day as a stain on our nation's history."

"It allows the government to seize individuals on American soil and detain them indefinitely with no opportunity to challenge their detention in court," Feingold said. "And the new law would permit an individual to be convicted on the basis of coerced testimony and even allow someone convicted under these rules to be put to death."


And, I couldn't help but enjoy this gem for sheer agitation value,

Snow rejected the idea that Americans should be able to see and judge the standards for themselves, particularly in the aftermath of illegal abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison.

"The only way accountability doesn't exist is if you believe that the military is not committed to it," Snow said.


You dumbass, that is such a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept of "accountability." Accountability only fails if we don't have blind faith that other people will hold themselves accountable for their actions? That's the OPPOSITE of accountability. In fact, I don't think we would even NEED accountability if that were the case.

[identity profile] emptybackpack.livejournal.com 2006-10-18 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my God. I . . . how can nobody be freaking out about this? It's just like in all the science fiction we think we'll learn from. This is one of the basic basic rights you learn about in any American Government class. Does nobody remember?
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-18 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
No. They don't. They're not even paying attention. We're living in total disinterested ignorance. I don't know how the fuck we haven't impeached this man yet. What is wrong with our leaders.

And no one is saying anything. No one is doing anything. This has been swept under the carpet and even if it wasn't, no one would probably understand what it meant.

It means only one of the ten articles of the Constitution guaranteed to the American people in the Bill of Rights is still in effect.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2006-10-18 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always been really disappointed when I mention that this happened and people either go "what?" or "it's not that important."

AMERICAN. CITIZENS.

They can hold you indefinitely. No. No one will know that you're there, they can do this all secretly. And the government has picked up every day citizens for seemingly innocuous actions that only in retrospect look threatening (one woman, an author writing a fictional novel about life in the middle east, had her home ransacked, her research and computers taken away, because the library thought there was something off about all the research she was doing on the middle east and reported her).

And. And. Just. Augh. This alone makes me want to move to another country. I should not be afraid of my own government violating my human rights in such a fundamental way. Especially not a country that's all about free speech!

Nope, can't have an educated electorate, nope....
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2006-10-18 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that there has never been a more convicing evidence that the American education system is flawed than this. There is something wrong in the state of Denmark, guys. Fix it. We need to do better than this.

I agree though. They've taken away so much of what makes this country great that it's literally starting to look better and better to move to some other country where the government isn't quite this fucked up.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2006-10-18 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I know a lot of people get worked up about people leaving for other countries ("stay and vote this stuff out! Don't abandon ship!" or "the hell, we don't want you in our country!") and I'm not one of those "ew, Bush, I'm LEAVING" types.

But the very idea that the government would violate our rights like this... creeps me out. I want no part of this, as a citizen. I'm just still amazed that it passed. Didn't anyone go "hey! That's awful"?