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Hinamori the prom queen
A lot of people on my friends list were rly upset earlier about the newest chapter of Bleach, because of Ishida and Mayuri's interaction in there. Me, I'm just going to keep looking at the long term. As long as KT addresses it one way or another, I'm okay with it.
Me, I'm more kind of stunned about the results of the popularity poll. Okay, Hitsugaya is at the top, surprise surprise, Rukia is second, way to go, she deserves it after the Aaroniero fight, etc.
Hinamori is sixth?
Don't get me wrong, I love Hinamori. But this boggles me some because the last time there was a popularity contest, Hinamori was in the top twenty, but not the top ten, and since then she's -- uh -- become kind of a non-entity. We know she exists and is doing and thinking things, Imitated Gaiety proved that, but she hasn't appeared for over a year in either the manga or the anime or any of the movies. Why is she at the top of the list there? There is zero reason she should've beaten Renji or Orihime.
I don't get the Japanese sometimes I guess.
Me, I'm more kind of stunned about the results of the popularity poll. Okay, Hitsugaya is at the top, surprise surprise, Rukia is second, way to go, she deserves it after the Aaroniero fight, etc.
Hinamori is sixth?
Don't get me wrong, I love Hinamori. But this boggles me some because the last time there was a popularity contest, Hinamori was in the top twenty, but not the top ten, and since then she's -- uh -- become kind of a non-entity. We know she exists and is doing and thinking things, Imitated Gaiety proved that, but she hasn't appeared for over a year in either the manga or the anime or any of the movies. Why is she at the top of the list there? There is zero reason she should've beaten Renji or Orihime.
I don't get the Japanese sometimes I guess.

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I wish that thing didn't existI know, it's nice to see her there. ♥ Especially after all the hate she gets from English-speaking fans. XDno subject
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The Hitsugaya factor? I dunno. Maybe because Shiro-chan is popular and she's shipped with him that she got votes.
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Feh.
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I do agree that it was very dangerous ground to walk on, because it's a sensitive character issue that's being brushed aside, but man. The pitchforks and burning torches. :\
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I agree with you there, Hinamori is cool when she's there, but she's not, so... I feel kind of bad for Ichigo though, for not getting the number one spot hehe.
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I admit to not seeing what the fuss is, personally -- I think it's fairly typical shounen antics, and not intended to show and disrespect for Ishida.
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Yeah, and I think the poll was taken before Hitsugaya's chapter. Sooo.
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It's true that KT walked right into a sensitive issue and played it for laughs, so I understand why you're upset -- but not why people are just giving up on Bleach because someone is being comedic. I get absolutely zero sense that KT is making fun of Ishida or belittling his issue with Mayuri. Attempting to be dramatic about it while Ishida is incapable of standing up, dying, would only make him more ridiculous, and the target of more mockery from Mayuri, if not outright getting stabbed in the head because Mayuri is tired of hearing him. Gritting his teeth and being mature enough to set it aside for the moment is definitely the path of valor here. I have never even for a moment thought that Ishida's opinions of Mayuri have changed.
What I mean about addressing it is that it's not cool at all, if, say, we're just going to go ahead and pretend that Ishida never had any problem with Mayuri, lalala we're all friends. But as long as it is addressed in some way -- as long as KT shows us that he's aware that Ishida has something to say here -- I honestly don't feel anything out of place here. Any
daymonthyear now (giving time for another damn year long battle) I'm expecting Ishida to turn and confide in Renji that it's hard to be saved by someone so despicable, someone he wants to kill.So I feel like this is a case of fangirls overreacting, and then other fangirls hearing their objections and going, "Hey, she's right!" when I (perhaps a more impartial observer, being only recently a fan of Ishida's) have never gotten that impression at all. I feel like this whole thing might in fact be a case of cultural differences. XD
Anyway, that's my ramble. I realize why Ishida fans have gotten upset, I just personally kind of think this is all based on misunderstandings and it's being blown out of proportion somewhat.
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Mm, I understand where you're coming from, and it's more than reasonable. In hindsight from my initial wtf reactions, (and really, you should hear me talk in life, with uh friends about this kind of thing, it's embarrassing -- I'd tell you to ask
So, I suppose I have to admit in hindsight that I've been oversensitive to teh comedy, which is ... uh, embarrassing, because it's comedy. I guess it just burned because it was Mayuri, and wow, suck. And no, even with the latest chapter where I boggled at the connotations of the question in its translation, and previously when it was all crack comedy crack, I -- wasn't sure what I thought re: Ishida's question, but that little note on cultural differences does make a lot more sense.
I was really surprised when all these people started agreeing with me. o_O Mostly, the comedy fell a little flat on my end, I guess because it's weird to see Mayuri be used as a comedic figure when considering the really despicable things he's done in the past, and it may simple be that the comedy is there for that very reason, to help us ease into this idea of him being remotely heroic in the idea of this Szayel fight .. but I'm not even sure heroic is the right word, because, I don't think I could ever settle for that, nor can I imagine KT would encourage that, as I gather even from the crack that Mayuri isn't so much a hero as he is seriously weird.
idk, I admittedly over-reacted, and if I really don't read Bleach anytime soon it'll be because of TotA and SCHOOL.
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(Speaking of cultural differences, having read the original Japanese, I promise you that Ishida was not really concerned for Mayuri's health. Blame the translators: I'm like 95% certain he's referring to what he perceives as a stupid move on Mayuri's part -- he's like, "Uh, is that really okay, to leave your zanpakutou broken like that?" It's just a very traditional Japanese way of saying, "Isn't that... stupid?")
I don't read Japanese but that's how I read the translation. Typical shounen antics. Nothing at all, really. And I'm a huge Ishida fan. Yeah, a couple of my friends were upset. I agree with you that Ishida's been valiant here--I like his standing up to Mayuri while lying there gutless so to speak. The bickering just shows that Ishida isn't allowing himself to be totally victimized. He's being the same ole defiant Ishida I love.
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But I say go Hinamori! I like her.
And over the new chapter, to be honest, Ishida couldn't have done anything. If I were him I would put that fact that he'd just saved me and I was in no position to fight over the fact he'd killed my grandfather...but is that just me? lol
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And I think that's true! I was just saying, gritting his teeth and shouldering his resentment is the better part of valor when he's A) dying and B) incapable of defending himself or hurting Mayuri, so Mayuri is his only chance of survival. So it's not just you. XD
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Kira. Yay!!
Hitsugaya. Still don't get the insane popularity. *shrug*
Share all possible spoilers please? @_@
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I don't have much in the way of spoilers, honestly, except that there is much stabbing for Nnoitra and Kenpachi.
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