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Kay ([personal profile] sincere) wrote2008-06-05 10:30 am

Comics we never read! The power of nostalgia!

Having just watched the X-men movie trilogy (verdict: good, good, what wait) my mind goes back to an inexplicable period of my childhood.

I don't know when I was into X-men. I'm sure I was never an avid fan of the comics. I feel like I may just have been a Gambit/Rogue fan. I have memories of searching for fanfiction about them. Why did I do this? What motivated me? How did I discover them? Was it the cartoon series?

I genuinely don't know. But it's so deeply ingrained as a piece of my history that I can't help shipping it, even when it's not relevant. It's just in the back of my head: I'm thinking about the X-men movies, and then I'm thinking about Gambit/Rogue. Kinda weird!

[identity profile] libekory.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Professor X put it in your head.

From beyond the grave.
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2008-06-06 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
D: I need a Magneto helmet.

[identity profile] tenshinoakuma.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm I only remember watching the cartoon series and playing the Street fighter vs Xmen games xD I kind of thought Wolverine, Gambit and Rogue (and Charles when he gets to be awesome) were socooool, though I never had any ships :(

Oh X-men ♥
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2008-06-06 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
It was so long ago. XD I really have no idea how I started shipping them. It was just like, vague knowledge of the X-men, followed by shipping two characters from it, even though I didn't care all that much about X-men. Cultural phenomena be crazy.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never read the comics and I love X-Men. It's called cultural conscious :3

(You'd have to be a blind and dithering idiot living under a rock not to ship Rogue/Gambit).
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2008-06-06 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
That's true! It's funny how that works. XD You just... gain awareness of these things. And apparently develop strong opinions about them!

I don't know if it's just the dynamic or what. Reformed womanizer/Woman who can't be touched OTP?!

[identity profile] sakusha.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with your verdicts. The third was one out of nowhere and so unbelievably terrible. D: Even though he's kind of a tool, k-killing Cyclops in the first two seconds?! What?! Plus it was sexist.

But I know what you mean about vaguely associating pairings or specific scenarios with old shows/comics/what have you. It's like how I always think of Tigra getting kidnapped whenever I think of Thundercats. And I agree about Gambit/Rogue. I never really knew anything about them... just... Gambit/Rogue!
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2008-06-06 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
YES that is EXACTLY what bugged me. It felt like they put Scott's death in there, poked it with a stick, then shrugged and ignored it. I kept waiting for it to impact something -- for someone to use it to weaken Jean Gray at a critical moment -- for Scott to come back and go, hay, not really dead! -- because that is how pointless it was. Right until the tombstone scene I was fucking waiting. They literally just killed him off so that Wolverine would have an excuse to try to save her instead of her husband.



I hear Gambit will appear in the upcoming movie, about Wolverine's origins. I don't know if the whole movie will take place in flashback or not, but I hope not, and I hope we see even a hint of Gambit/Rogue. XD For old times' sake!

[identity profile] sakusha.livejournal.com 2008-06-06 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! God! I was totally expecting Scott to come back and be all, "I'm alive!" But no, they needed their climactic scene of Wolverine penetrating Jean with his claws, because heaven forbid a woman actually get powerful - she will of course not know how to handle the power and go nuts. So you must kill her out of wuv! God.

I do like Scott. He's trying his best and can't help it if "bad boy" Wolverine comes in and enjoys stealing his motorcycle.

Yay Gambit! Again, nothing for me to go on, but they have to have some Gambit/Rogue. Maybe they'll take a hint from how awesome Iron Man was and make the Wolverine movie not suck.
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2008-06-06 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Although to be fair, Jean Gray isn't the only one who has that sort of plotline. In point of fact, Gambit also has it. His power was much too immense for him to control when he was younger (he killed an entire theater full of people by accident) so he hooked up with that Sinister guy in exchange for the promise that Sinister would do something to make his powers controllable. Sinister made him much less powerful, but able to use his powers productively (and later gave him his powers back and possibly caused great havoc).

Of course, the whole movie was about different people trying to control her power and her being too weak to do anything about it herself. She never even really tried. Whatever.

All I'm saying was, it was a dirty move to kill off her husband and treat it like it didn't matter after the first fifteen minutes, just to make the rest of the movie about someone not her husband trying to save her. :\

[identity profile] refracting.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
...does this mean I can babble about comics at you now?

[identity profile] mojojessjo.livejournal.com 2008-06-06 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
GAMBIT AND ROGUE SHIPPING?!?! GAH! I MUST SHUN YOU WOMAN, SHUN YOU!!!!

Erm...Yeah, I have a large hatred for Gambit and Rogue as a couple, but I will spare you the details.

I've been dipping my toe back into comics of late, mostly Iron Man and Avengers related, partly because of the Iron Man movie and partly because what I've been hearing about post-CW Marvel actually has me interested. It's weird the cycles people go through fannishly, or even non-fannishly but interest wise.
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[identity profile] kay-willow.livejournal.com 2008-06-06 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Which is such a funny thing, after other people have been like, "Oh, the pairing is a cultural phenomenon, people just ship it UNCONSCIOUSLY, like they absorb it out of the air." XD I knew someone from my friends didn't like it, but I wasn't sure if it was you or not. X3

All [livejournal.com profile] refracting wants to talk about anymore is Tony Stark. He's her booooyfriend.